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Seth Zeren's avatar

Do you have data on $150-$250 psf for new ground up elevator/sprinkler apartment buildings? My experience in RI is that hard costs are at least 280/sf, and I've heard estimates of

350+/sf. Total development cost is 50% more on top of that. I agree that ADUs are expensive to build, but the comparison narrows a little, in my experience as a developer.

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I wanted to like this until I got here.

"NIMBYism is a political identity, not a misunderstanding, and she’s not going to grow out of it."

Which you immediately contradict here.

"The ADU enriches her property and houses Mom, or a tenant she screens personally, who pays $2,500 a month. Same unit of housing. Completely different calculus, because self-interest overrode principle."

The obvious difference is that the person is personally screening who enters her neighborhood. The reason they don't want the apartment built is because it brings in the wrong sort of people and their housing values go down. An ADU housing a personally screened by them to make sure that doesn't happen.

NIMBYism isn't a "political identity". It's rational homeowners recognizing that the value of real estate is related to the people who live near you.

The Fair Housing Act was the worst piece of legislation in history because it prevented discrimination at scale and hence "don't let poor people apartments get built" because the only tool people had.

So long as people treat NIMBYs as some kind of irrational orcs rather then rational economic actors that have preferences that need to be bargained with your not going to make progress.

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