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1) "because they pencil"

If something doesn't pencil, maybe it shouldn't exist.

You are incredibly obsessed with government subsidies. Low interest loans, tax breaks, etc.

If something needs a government subsidy, maybe it shouldn't exist. That's not a "market failure".

For every Walt Disney there are a ton of people that failed. That's why the bank doesn't give free money to everyone with a dream. It runs the math and makes rational choices.

2) "They cannot find a 2BR they can afford. They’ve been looking for two years. The 1BRs they can afford have a den that her partner uses as an office, which means the kid would be in their bedroom, which means they aren’t going to have the kid yet, which means they aren’t going to get married yet, which means the whole thing keeps getting pushed back, six months at a time, for what is starting to feel like the rest of their twenties."

You put your office in the bedroom and make the den the crib room. That's what we did, because we aren't retarded.

Also, we got married after a year of dating and had a kid immediately, because an extra $300 a month in rent for an extra bedroom isn't exactly what is holding up family formation.

If you want to get people to have kids, GIVE THEM MONEY. Specifically, refund their payroll taxes as an acknowledgement of their raising the next generation of taxpayers.

NOT low interest loans or tax deductions for things YOU THINK THEY WANT. Cash! Maybe they rent a bigger apartment. Maybe they stay in the small apartment and use it for daycare or baby formula or WHATEVER THEY WANT.

3) "National problem" = blue state problem. I.E. not national.

4) There is a class of YIMBY that thinks anyone that wants to exercise any control over building is either evil, stupid, or both. That all opposition should be swept aside by state level legislation issued by the enlightened.

I think that this is misguided. I think most YIMBY-ism is rational. Not every old fart at a planning meeting, but the kind of sustained NIMBY-ism driven by rational self interest.

The main thing NIMBYs are trying to do is preserve community safety and school districts. There are other local issues but those are the big ones.

I think the reason that blue states have failed is that they have failed on these core issues. Homeowners have then decided to use zoning as their way to defacto provide security and "good schools" for themselves because the government failed.

This problem can't be solved by fiat from the governors office. That's why you aren't seeing the building and the local resistance has persisted.

What your critics are trying to say is "you need to solve these big structural problems and you can't pave over them." It's constructive criticism.

I get why you don't want to hear it. Who wants to hear "get a blue state to enact school vouchers" or "get a blue state to be tough on crime". They want to hear that their enemy is some white grandma who's racist and just wants to see her house price go up because she's greedy. They don't want to take on third rail blue state constituencies. I get it. Its still cowardly.

And it's still not going to work. That young family wants to buy into a safe place with a good school district. They can already rent a two bedroom in a slum.

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