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The biggest structural NIMBY issues are schools and public safety. As long as people see new building as threatening what are essentially the main amenities built into housing, they are going to oppose it.

The reason everyone wants to build 55+ housing is because it doesn't have any negative effects on schools or public safety (and it brings fed bucks into the community with few additional costs).

This is the primary issue. The way things are structured families are a negative for most* localities (whereas olds are positives). Suburbs and exurbs can make it work for middle to upper middle class families by pricing out the poors (though SFH, no rentals, and needing a car).

I'm skeptical of building getting done in deep blue areas because they aren't tackling those issues well. We aren't seeing new building in the data. Some blue cities in red states can sometimes be strong armed by their state government. And they often benefit from conservative policies on public order and school choice.

Ultimately, you've got to both get more money into the hands of families and give families a way to protect themselves from underclass externalities without having to rely on extensive housing segregation.

*If most of your school funding comes from the state then they can be a positive. Hence poor rural and urban districts really hate the idea of school choice, they view the children as captive revenue sources. The suburbs mostly fund their own schools so new residents that don't pay a lot in tax are a negative. Moreover, poor kids have a negative impact on the quality of schools. Most suburbs are selling the fact that you can get a school without poor people without having to double pay (first pay taxes and then pay tuition on top of that).

"expanded public housing, rent freeze on stabilized apartments"

These are NIMBY policies.

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If you're going to mention San Francisco, everyone's poster child for "unaffordable housing" You have to mention that it's bordered by ocean on three sides. It cannot simply sprawl like Houston or other places. Like Manhattan, there will always be a limit on how much housing you can build here, not to mention without losing the charm of the city which developers could care less about. Most importantly, San Francisco building department is rife with corruption and incompetence. The last director was arrested by the FBI, for example. It's not that people are necessarily NIMBY, it's that San franciscans have zero trust in our local government to manage development competently or without corruption.

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